Have you tried freezer bags, the heavy duty ones made for boiling temps? If the program is full, you will be added to a waitlist. Freeze Dried And the recipes/concepts were pretty limited. http://www.harmonyhousefoods.com/Clear-ZIP-Pouch-Empty-50-Count_p_1948.html, Another option: http://www.amazon.com/6x9-5x3-Mylar-Stand-Silver-Pouch/dp/B00D7OBQS6/ref=pd_bxgy_328_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=1Q81DVBV40S0P6RMEX2M, Some good ideas in this thread: https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/43377/. I simply hate having an additional task to do at the end of the day. Will my trash be slightly heavier than cooking the dry ingredients? I appreciate the different perspectives. Same as 10 minutes before or after you have to pee technically the same time, but not. But dont hate on me because I pioneered a movement 14+ years ago! I dont think so But the other pillars of FBC (DIY meals made of pre-mixed ingredients, cooked together in a single container) have a lot to offer. You can drink the greywater or disperse it, your call; I normally drink it, especially when in arid areas or dry camping. Poached chicken in freezer bag with your choice of marinade. biscuits smothered in a creamy sausage gravy. Beef, mushrooms, and noodles smothered in a Im thinking of mainly using plastic peanut butter jars because I have many of them. 2. I get tired of washing crud out of my pot with moss or sand or dirt or whatever. The question is: Are you purchasing OLD Mountain house products? LDP Camping Foods Enrollment limits apply. Sarah, thanks for providing the hiking community tons of free recipes. I agree. My meals are always packaged in a little sandwich ziplock bag they compress better in the bear canister. Tender strips of steak with long grain rice Spicy rice and chicken seasoned with tomato, peppers, and olives. Curious how long does butter last on the trail? Not something that I would continue doing for weeks on end, but for 4 or 5 days in a row, it should be fine. FBC lets you break it up into manageable chunks that require less supervision and can be aborted easier if needed. Shelf-stable for ten years makes them ideal for backpacking, camping and emergency foods. No clean up time and a very clean Jetboil unit to stow away with zero concern for mess or smell. The tomato-based bags don't clean up very well though (spaghetti and lasagna). for cooking is its mass. Opinion-less writing tends not to very useful, and about 2x the work for the writer. 384 Wallis Street #2 I find theyre great for repacking because the MH and other brand's bags are so stiff and bulky they dont pack down very well, full or empty. We combined our signature yellow curry with sauce to deliver your next favorite Mountain House recipe. Drain most water with lid. The TI cup fits quite nicely on the titanium wing stove, too. Even if you have a pot that weighs slightly more, in the example of the Evernew 600 vs 900mL the savings is made up on the SECOND DAY. @50 beans or peas would result in a 177 mixture, and Id wager similar for rice or pasta. Be the first to review Mountain House Food. Im a noob hiker and dehydrate all my trail meals and vacuum seal them for freshness. The point of the bear container is to prevent them from eating the things they smell. Ziploc Vaccum sealed bags work great, I've used them to make handwarmers before and they didn't leak under heat or the gas pressure. entree pouches is Please check your entries and try again. If needed, we can have a second FB cooking while we all share the first. 2. The freezer bag is the least important element in the concept, and I think its immediately off-putting to most because of the impression it gives. But Seans idea, mixed with Sarahs idea, with Andrews methodology That is simple evolution folks, and just superior. Im interested in using reusable bags, what bags do you use? Theyre used repeatedly, not once. I would never tell someone off though. Plus, a dirty pot is not something to fear. Also, it's important to note that Mountain House products made prior to 1986 do not fall under the 30-year shelf life and Taste Test guarantee. Extra water in the pot helps, too. If that means a little more weight or inconvenience, I am fine with that, Im not convinced some of that plastic doesnt end up in my food . I would rather cook from the pot but also like not having to clean it after wards in addition to the extra water usage. I cook in my pot, eat (I think I would die if I had to wait that long to eat at the end of a day) use my finger to scrape (because I want every calorie). This stuff could be in large ziplock bags, separated out each evening/morning into the next days rations. Enjoy this chicken Andrew, Since you mention simmering your meals in a pot, what kind of stove are you now using? MH packaging don't lend themselves very well to mere "quick rinse" out in the field. If I need to cook or simmer something I can. Polyethylene is a fairly stable/inert plastic, but its not the base plastic thats so much a concern, its the plasticizers added, that potentially worry me, that and subjecting the plastics to unusual, semi extreme conditions (boiling water temps) which can speed up/increase leaching. Its not necessarily lighter, but if I can save an hour of cooking/cleaning time then thats at least another hour/2-3 miles I can be on the trail, or the ability to nap in the heat of the day. Ive done multiple thru hikes. I call it Modular Cooking which represents the idea better. (Approved for the JMT+PCT). paneling aspen lumber While the first thing on Google [http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/specific-heat-capacity-food-d_295.html] doesnt have values for pasta or rice, it does have kidney beans and dried peas, which are probably close enough and useful in their own right, and have specific heat capacity just 0.28 that of water. with quantity discounts starting at $200. I use cheap sandwich zip bags but still looking for a better solution. Excellent thread. Please accept our apologies for the inconvenience. Its the easiest/lightest option Ive found, but would love to hear how others handle group DIY cooking. No need to spend $50 on a Ti mug. I picked up some of the cook-in bags from Packit Gourmet last year and made my own dehydrated meals. I wanted to address the waste-of-plastic-packing-out-nasty-bags issue. A baggie for insurance is probably also smart. Freezer bags would not be practical for a group (solo only, I think) 2. Well I dont need to waste valuable water washing and rinsing dishes which can be a big deal in some water scarce areas. This entry was posted in Mountain House Reviews, Preparedness Planning Tips, ARTICLES & TIPS on April 25, 2019 by TheEpicenter.com. Its not difficult to avoid scorching your food. adamantly repeating something in a baffled, slightly ridiculing overtone does not make your argument more convincing, imo. This would necessitate that I thoroughly clean that container after every meal. As I understand it, the main reason for the freezer bag method is nothing to do with cleaning the pot but to save fuel by retaining the heat in a cozy pouch. This page contains affiliate links which means at no additional cost to you, I may receive small commissions for purchases made via these links. Ziploc is a great guy but lets be real hes just doing his best. I still prefer eating out of a pot, regardless, but the instant cooling isnt among the reasons why. There wasnt many choices. A community devoted to recipes you can cook while backpacking. Packaging your meals into disposable sandwich bags is not perfect, but its more economical and more environmentally friendly than using heftier freezer bags. We used cheddar cheese powder, tomato crystals, powdered eggs, restaurant squeeze packets of honey and other commercial products. Mountain House Just In Case OFD Foods, the makers of Mountain House, is located in Albany, Oregon, about 45 minutes north of our warehouse facility. MAYBE if Im feeling generous I rinse out but honestly not needed. Click here to take a virtual tour of our processing facilities. chicken, vegetables, and fluffy dumplings in a white gravy gives this Thanks for subscribing! It was an amazing trip! I use an old, cut up Platypus bottle that developed a hole near the opening threads so it was useless as a water bottle. ~30 years. Where have they been stored? Additionally, theyre extensively evaluated for toxicity and safety and comply with and often even exceed applicable quality and safety regulations. MSRP: $3.7512 for $45.00 The only use my pot gets is heating water for FBC meals and coffee. Maybe next time you write such a post you can be more subjective and let us readers make our own decisions. It still helps to use plenty of water though, especially with things like oatmeal, which if left to dry out, seems to turn into a kind of concrete. They are also bear smellables. We are here for you! If I'm short on water, I scrub it as clean as I can with dirt and leaves, then stow the dirty pot in a trash bag and finish washing it when I do get water. Rice and chicken in a savory sauce accented with pimientos. Breakfasts will continue to be all the same for me because thats the way I like them. Those are the reasons I prefer cooking in a pot, but lots of people ask me if BackpackingChef recipes can be cooked using Sarahs freezer bag method. UPS will not accept dripping packages, so please make sure your items are dry. The shelf life of Mountain House Meals Freeze Dried Food I always cooked in pots and only recently tried FBC using quart size bags. Vanilla Ice Ive never felt like dishwashing was a notable waste of water, especially because you can drink the greywater its a nice end-of-meal broth. It may be disposable or not. Yes, I do bring any bags I have used home and wash them, but that is a real pain, not to mention using a lot of plastic that I am trying to avoid. 1. Eating hot lunches works for me because I like to stop, rest, enjoy the scenery, and fortify my body and mood with good meals. Login or become a member to post in the member forums! I thought how great it would have been to have a hot lunch. Sign up for the Mountain House Free Recycling Program and begin recycling. I dont want a pot to clean. Required fields are marked *. FWIW, I dont usually boil water for container cooking because its just not necessary if its treated first. If you're reusing your cooking bag, may I ask what you're storing your dehydrated food in meanwhile? Participating in this program is easy and FREE! its as simple as this: if it baffles you to eat out of a bag, then dont; if you are lazy, then do fbc. mizzfit (Old style Mountain House meals came in a bag btw, that you put a cardboard collar on, then slipped back into the mylar bag). Another option to use with freezer bags, etc. Mountain House. Get our free Handbook and Receive our weekly newsletter to see what's new at Backpacking Light! There are always options to be more mindfulbut in the enddriving a car to a trailhead is still the most impactful thing a hiker can do. If you think you really need one (you dont), pack a cut-up sponge. Were all in agreement that DIY meals with mixed ingredients that can be cooked together is the way to go. I wash and reuse freezer bags all the time. Freezer bags work phenomenally. What about FoodSaver vacuum bags? Great thread. You must have JavaScript enabled in your browser to utilize the functionality of this website. This all warms up cold hands very, very well. you can take the food in regular ziplocks, and then use a thermos. Beef Stew This beef stew is a hearty collection of the best beef, potatoes, onions, carrots, peas and spices. But if you're at the local outfitter and need to make a game-time decision, then hopefully this post can help to guide you. About pot washing, though, I am curious.